Description
The traffic signal for the east bound Douglas Avenue across N Larch St is too short. This is an uphill interchange and it will only allow 2, maybe three cars through the intersection legally at a time. Not only does this cause significant delays around 5 pm time frame, but it creates a potentially serious safety hazard. Due to the short time of the green signal, it is very common for two to five cars to run the red light.
19 Comments
Aaron M. (Registered User)
Amy Akers, BWL Social Media Specialist (Registered User)
Aaron M. (Registered User)
I understand that you feel that it is proper timing. As stated previously, this is not a safe intersection due to how many cars will run the red light after a very short green light. All other directions have very ample time to traverse the green lights in a safe fashion. Only in the eastbound direction is the intersection timing an unsafe timing. The timing of concern is around the 5pm time frame. If you are not able to adjust this to be safe, then I need to know which organization to contact to correct the more than obvious deficiency. If there is not an agency to be contacted, then which Congress person can be contacted to resolve this.
It is very suspect that the timing is "correct" when it is extremely different than all other directions.
dhb1ibo (Registered User)
Jan (Registered User)
Aaron M. (Registered User)
I have contacted MDOT and was referred to a document that sets the guidelines for traffic signals. http://mdotcf.state.mi.us/public/tands/Details_Web/mdot_signal_optimization_guidelines.pdf
After review, I have discovered that the timing is not correct at the intersection based on the MDOT guidelines. I will personally be timing the intersection today around the 5pm time frame and will report my findings tomorrow. After receiving little interest or concern from MDOT, I will research to find what higher power I may get involved with this.
I will continue to report my findings in the process to help those who may face similar issues.
Jan, I did not ask her to "tutor" me on the timing of the lights rather I was looking for contact info at the MDOT to expedite the resolution of the issue. I feel now that I am caught in the middle of a scenario where no agency wants to take action or responsibility. It's a little unsettling when I am told by one agency it is correct and then discover it is in fact not correct.
Jan (Registered User)
LansingPI (Registered User)
Aaron M. (Registered User)
Aaron M. (Registered User)
City of Lansing (Registered User)
Eastbound phase is 19 seconds, which should allow 5-6 vehicles to get through. Since this is an MDOT controlled intersection, if you do not feel this is enough time, you should contact MDOT's Lansing Transportation Service Center at 335-3754.
Andy Kilpatrick
Transportation Engineer
Closed City of Lansing (Registered User)
Reopened Aaron M. (Registered User)
Aaron M. (Registered User)
xavier (Registered User)
Aaron M. (Registered User)
dhb1ibo (Registered User)
Ontario MNR, Esri, HERE, Garmin, INCREMENT P, Intermap, USGS, EPA, USDA
2017 Construction Projects
Location At the intersection of Larch St & Lake Lansing Rd
Type Traffic Signal Communication
Start Spring 2017
End Fall 2017
Impact Short term lane closures
Agency City of Lansing
Contact Patrick Landry
Contact# (517) 483-4238
This being the construction info with contact person, my question would be why is the city of Lansing working on an MDOT signal?
Aaron M. (Registered User)
This issue is still outstanding. There was no construction project.
It seems that none of the agencies wish to take responsibility for this. Very disappointing.
Aaron M. (Registered User)