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The intersection of Western Blvd and Boylan Ave remains a problem. In the last three days I have nearly been hit by a car that did not recognize the red light as relevant to their desire to turn left from Western onto Boylan and seen three other cars turning onto Western from Boylan run the red light for pedestrian crossing. Cars do not know where to stop (for westbound traffic on Western some go through the intersection and stop by the walkway others stop before the intersection, eastbound cars on Western turning left onto Boylan do not always stop before the crosswalk but seek to turn while the cars are stopped on Western). All of this is very hazardous for pedestrians and motorists. Is there some kind of signage to alert those turning onto Western from Boylan that they should be alert to the possibility of a red light at the crosswalk? Should the crosswalk be moved? Is there a sign to inform turning traffic from Western onto Boylan about where to stop or can an additional light be placed over the turn lane? I don't know the best solution, but this is an ongoing problem.
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Meesh (Người dùng đã đăng ký)
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AB (Người dùng đã đăng ký)
in addition, the ongoing problem of illegal left turns from Boylan onto Western needs to be addressed. Everytime I see this happen I am terrified that there will be a horrifying accident.
DTRNeighbor (Người dùng đã đăng ký)
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AndrewF (Người dùng đã đăng ký)
I have an issue crossing here as well, but i have to say a roundabout isn't the best idea for a couple reasons. I think an elevated walkway is the answer at Boylan and Western. I also think a full, wide sidewalk along S Saunders and Lake Wheeler Rd is needed for access to the park from multiple places.
Roundabouts are not pedestrian friendly at all, as traffic never actually stops.
You also can't control speed in a roundabout. If there is traffic, it will have to slow to allow for entering and exiting of other cars. If it's just a single car with no other cars around it could moce through at a dangerous speed.
Also, Western is a main artery for downtown. The city remodelled all of Hillsborough St with roundabouts such that traffic would be discouraged and diverted to Wade and Western. If we take Western out of the picture for fast traffic flow then downtown is strangled from the West. That cannot happen. We have to deal with Western being a fast moving, busy road.
Meesh (Người dùng đã đăng ký)
I agree with an elevated walkway for Boylan and Western, but one is most needed for crossing the Lake Wheeler Rd "canyon" into the new Dix park.
Having lived in England, France and Germany for a while, I know roundabouts can be pedestrian friendly so long as the crossings are outside the roundabout. Roundabouts, by their very nature, control speed down to a level where there is no excuse for not seeing pedestrians in a crosswalk when exiting a roundabout. In London, multi-lane roundabouts, that may have higher exit speeds from drivers crossing lanes just before exiting a roundabout, have pedestrian crossings with button operated stop lights, again, outside the roundabout.
BTW, there's nothing "fast" about Western Blvd once you're east of Dawson. All the red lights are timed to make east-west transit as stop-and-go as possible.
DTRNeighbor (Người dùng đã đăng ký)
This morning I saw a motorist on a moped turn right from Boylan onto Western and then use the crosswalk to cross over Western. Extremely dangerous.
An elevated walkway is a nice idea, but it doesn't address the traffic problems (like the one I just mentioned and several others). If money is going to be spent to solve any problems here, I think we should think long and hard about how to solve ALL the problems with this intersection. I travel through this area as a pedestrian, a cyclist, and a motorist, so I'd like to see a comprehensive solution if one is possible.
Meesh (Người dùng đã đăng ký)
With an elevated walkway, there's no need for a crosswalk that risky drivers can U-turn on.
With a roundabout, there's no need to U-turn anyway.
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Meesh, I understand that there isnt anything fast about Western after Dawson, but that's once you're *in* downtown. I'm saying Western is designed to be one of the fastest routes *to* downtown from the West, and it is.
When the city remodeled Hillsborough St several years ago one of the main goals was to reroute a majority of traffic to Western so Hillsborough would be more pedestrian friendly. We cannot then turn around and try to slow traffic on Western as well, or it defeats the purpose.
A slow roundabout isn't the answer. The intersection should probably be modified, but i still think a raised walkway is the best compromise bwtween keeping traffic moving at a good speed and ensuring pedestrian safety.
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Thom_Tru (Người dùng đã đăng ký)
I have simple solution: Move the crosswalk further west on Western Blvd, say 50 yards.
When I turn onto westbound Western, I'm more focused on the cars speeding westward than the light. If crosswalk was further west, it would allow for motorist to react to both of these. I also keep seeing people turn from Boylan Ave. onto westbound Western and just run the light. It's scary when crossing with children.
AB (Người dùng đã đăng ký)
additionally, as thom_tru points out, people turning right onto Western have to accelerate so fast they often do not notice the light. At the very least a warning light could be present to alert people when the light has changed just around the corner.
the signage remains unclear, particularly for those turning from eastbound western onto Boylan. they do not know where to stop or if they should remain stopped for the left turn when the light is red. many see this as their opportunity to turn when the westbound traffic is stopped so they fly up the lane to turn. but they can't tell how long the light will keep the traffic stopped - super dangerous.
people continue to run this light every day. install a camera. issue some tickets.
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